The article is interesting, and Lessig certainly has a point,but I object to the title of the article. It's misleading. It'snot "copyright laws" in general that hurt culture,it's the newest incarnation of Disney/AOLTW/RIAA promotedcopyright laws that seem to be the problem. The DMCA is aparticularly egregious misstep in the course of US copyrightlegislation, but I believe that copyright laws are generallygood for culture. With luck, this DMCA and RIAA bushwa willeventually be recognized for what it is -- a panicky reaction bymoneyed interests to infant technologies -- and we can move onto address new technologies appropriately in this area of law.
::Double checks installation of M:TFL and m.net::Bring it, you bottom-feeding scum sucker! ;^)::Runs and hides behind his mommy::
::Opens new can of Bloodrain Bait(tm)::
Listen you fascist demagogue of intellectual elitism (OMG! ZAGIZ LEET BRAIN NAZI!), just because you want to strangle the freeexchange of ideas and information doesn't mean you get to defendbottom-feeding scum-suckers... ;^) [must have forgotten thesmileys last time]
* - I remember hearing an interesting article on All ThingsConsidered one day about someone who saterized "Gone Withthe Wind", by telling the story (slightly skewed) from theslaves' perspective (or was it a retelling of the same story,with everything flipped around?) Anyway, the author was beingsued by the estate of the author (whose name I forget) becauseit was "derivative work".
Thanks to Wired and other equally half-assed publications,
significant portion of the Internet public now sees the DMCA asrepresentative of copyright legislation in general
Withoutcopyrights "culture" would be screwed, simple as that.
The only thing that would be screwed would be corporate profitsw/o copyright law, not culture. Culture and the arts haveexisted and thrived for thousands of years before copyright lawswere put on the books.
I have no idea why you would say this. In my 5 years of readingWired magazine it has never been half-assed, or even close -imo.
I completely disagree.The only thing that would be screwed would be corporate profitsw/o copyright law, not culture. Culture and the arts haveexisted and thrived for thousands of years before copyright lawswere put on the books.
I have a suggestion Ven: write a book, or record a song, orauthor a website. Put a portion of your life into somethingthat's entirely your own. And then see how sanguine you feelwhen someone comes along and steals it.
In no way am I putting down copyrights and their use.I am just suspect of what the current laws are and what theyhave been twisted into very recently - both by whom and whattheir intention is in changing these laws.VJ
Then you need to make that clear. Your rants tend to soundextremist. Had you said something that sounded more like"The recent laws suck and are nothing more than an attemptby Big Business to exploit both artists and consumers."rather than saying something that sounded a lot like"Copyrights suck. Let's get rid of 'em." than thismisunderstanding wouldn't have happened.So let's see if I can paraphrase your position, after this hugethread..."Copyrights are a valuable tool for artists to protecttheir work, but some of the recent legislation (both completeand proposed) are a travesty of that ideal and will serve tostifle artistic expression as profit-mongering corporationsbecome the ultimate executor and interpreter of that artisticexpression."I can handle that, and not think you some whacked-out, granolamunching, tree-hugging left-wing extremist. :^)
thanks that summarizes it I guess :)...but really my foray intothis rant was simply a link to an article which discusses howcurrent copyright laws may hurt culture.I never said anything against the idea of copyright or copyrightlaws.
Although I do not like granola, tree hugging is good foranyone's soul, and I don't belong to any wing in particular andmost certainly have never been any type of "ist", nordo I subscribe to any "isms".
Sometimes I feel like Howard the DuckVJ
I never said anything against the idea of copyright or copyrightlaws.
That's it for me, I'm outta this thread for good.Mark