Both.I don't know the significance of it not being reported in themajor media- ie- network TV , Fox, CNN, etc, just that it hasn'tbeen. a blurb on a .com does not count.It just seems that if someone had advanced knowledge and warneda group of people, they are a direct link to who did it andthere is a good place to start.I am just doing my best to not remain ignorant in the light ofwhat's being fed to us in the mainstream media and continuing toquestion...
story came from a pro-Palestinian news agency and Pravda. Maybesomeone finds those sources more credible than the mainstreamU.S. media, but I do not.
Yeah I guess here's where a big issue comes up.I have no reason to believe their news media is for any reasonless credible than our media, unless someone has some proof todispute what they report.
And if you look at my post I say that if indeed the 2 hourforewarning is a fact, which it appears to be, that that maypreclude the "possibility" of the rumor. A simple"Don't go to wherever you work today, cause we have aserios warning" is enough to be warranted a very importantpiece of info, imo.
I'd rather hear details of real investigative reporting andevidence instead of the "spaghetti-western, lowest commondenomonator" speak spewed at us by our leadership. Thisisn't a 50's movie and John Wayne sure isn't gonna ride intoAfghanistan and round up those "evil folks".
Isn't that backwards? If they are making the allegation("Israel is responsible for this attack") shouldn'tthey have the burden of coming up with the proof? Just as the USgovernment has a burden to prove that Osama bin Laden wasinvolved?
I guess I tend to discount stories blaming Israel that arereported in outlets that have (or have demonstrated) apropensity to want to blame Israel for just about every ill inthe world.After the OKC bombing, there were conspiracy theories about howthe FBI warned its agents not to go to work in the building. I'msure if you look at any significant terrorist attack, you canfind somebody afterwards trying to point the finger at thevictims or someone associated with them. You have to be carefulnot to leave your mind so open that anything can crawl in.
Sure, if it were specific enough to be taken as a "seriouswarning" and to identify a place where people shouldn't goto work -- surely a message that says "Something bad isgoing to happen in two hours" isn't enough to shut downevery workplace in the country?
I agree with you on the last point, but I wonder how youdistinguish "real" investigative reporting from anyother kind. Is it only "real" if it contradicts whatthe mainstream media are saying?
On a related note, do you believe that the public has a right toknow every detail of the investigation as it develops, or is thegovernment justified in withholding some stories until a laterpoint (say, until evidence is fully understood or to avoidtipping its hand)?
I was not pointing to any specific story they have run - as Ihave not read any, and I have no basis nor in the position todetermine whether what they report is true or false. I wassaying just because they are a Palestinian news organization, Iattempt to not fall into the simple trap to believe they are notcredible.
True, just as were conspiracy theories that this was a middleeast terrorist act initially, all avenues have to be looked at.Leaving one's mind open so that anything can crawl is a problemof everyday life, it's what we do with what comes in thatmatters.
Well, we don't really know what was said yet do we?
Well of course not the general public shouldn't know everydetail while the investigation develops...but what you havedeveloping is a situation where we are being prepped by thecurrent administration to accept details never being revealedand the whole operation to continue to move on indefinitlywithout answers ever directly being given.
I would be comfortable even knowing that some trusted publicreporter was being detailed(while maintaining secrecy andsecurity) of everything along the way, ensuring to then at somepoint reveal it to the public. Perhaps that is happening, but Ido not know of it.
As a side, do you know anything about International Treaty LawsBR? :)
I'd love to at sometime discuss the US Gov'ts violation of over300 of em with sovereign nations. Trust is such a delicatething.
just a quick thanks for the discussion.
It's apathy, ignorance, the low level of discussion and debate,and the lack of vision for changing the future and trying tomove on as global race which frighten me most in these times.
When I see a long thread of new messages between 2 folks hereabout the topic at hand, I half expect it to be filled withvitriol. Good to see it kept friendly and civil. ANDdemonstrating 2 views that I also share, often in conflict witheach other.It's tough tough going nowadays for some of us. We wake up inthe middle of the night, scared about the future.Anyway, I'm rambling...- Miguel