More EU2 Questions

edited June 2003 in Gaming

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  • edited December 1969
    I bought the game yesterday. Did the person who wrote all the in-game text and the manual forget about commas? Yeesh. 8)

    Anyway here are some questions:

    In political view (I think that's what it's called), how come some provinces are yellow-coloured, some greyish, some green? There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason.

    I tried playing Age of Exploration as Spain. I walked a guy into Grenada at the beginning. Why couldn't I annex Granada after I took out the army there? The manual says that you can't take over a foreign capital province unless it is the only province left. So does Granada have another province somewhere?

    Speaking of which, is there a way to bring up a list that shows all the countries and what provinces they own?

    When I try to load games, EU2 crashes. I can start new games and save them fine. Wassah?


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  • edited December 1969
    Re: More EU2 Questions

    In political view (I think that's what it's called), how come
    some provinces are yellow-coloured, some greyish, some green?
    There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason.

    Well, if you're looking at the political map it shows which provinces belong to which country. Yellow is Castille, grey is Argon, and green is Portugal.

    I tried playing Age of Exploration as Spain. I walked a guy into
    Grenada at the beginning. Why couldn't I annex Granada after I
    took out the army there? The manual says that you can't take
    over a foreign capital province unless it is the only province
    left. So does Granada have another province somewhere?

    If you were trying to annex Granada by selecting Annex from the diplomat screen, that's not how it's done. That's how you Diplo-Annex a country, and to do that they have to have been your vassle for 10 years, and have 195+ relations with you.

    To annex a country you've taken over, like they say, the capitol has to be the only provice they have left. You use a diplomat to offer peace, then ask for tribute. When you offer peace, it will show you a bar with a percantage of how well the war is going in your favor. In order for them to accept a peace offer that will annex them the war has to be 100% in your favor, but if you meet the criteria for annexing someone (capital is their only province and you control it) then you'll be at 100%. Under the tribute screen you can ask for gold or provinces. If the capital is the only province it will be available. If they accept your peace offer, you will have annexed that country.

    Speaking of which, is there a way to bring up a list that shows
    all the countries and what provinces they own?

    No, all you can do is switch to the political map and look around.

    When I try to load games, EU2 crashes. I can start new games and
    save them fine. Wassah?

    Dunno, never had that happen.

    -Mori
  • edited December 1969
    Re: More EU2 Questions

    Well, if you're looking at the political map it shows which
    provinces belong to which country. Yellow is Castille, grey is
    Argon, and green is Portugal.

    Okay, it's not the political map because that mode makes sense (each nation has its own colour). I mean the "regular" view of the map. In that view, some of my (Spain's) provinces are yellow, some green, some sorta greyish...

    If you were trying to annex Granada by selecting Annex from the
    diplomat screen, that's not how it's done. That's how you
    Diplo-Annex a country, and to do that they have to have been
    your vassle for 10 years, and have 195+ relations with you.

    To annex a country you've taken over, like they say, the capitol
    has to be the only provice they have left. You use a diplomat to
    offer peace, then ask for tribute. When you offer peace, it will
    show you a bar with a percantage of how well the war is going in
    your favor. In order for them to accept a peace offer that will
    annex them the war has to be 100% in your favor, but if you meet
    the criteria for annexing someone (capital is their only
    province and you control it) then you'll be at 100%. Under the
    tribute screen you can ask for gold or provinces. If the capital
    is the only province it will be available. If they accept your
    peace offer, you will have annexed that country.

    Ah! That makes more sense!

    No, all you can do is switch to the political map and look
    around.

    Bah, big missing feature IMO. Most strategy games allow this in some sort of way...

    Dunno, never had that happen.

    Must be either a bug with the Mac version, or my copy, or something.

    Thanks for answering the annexing question... that was a biggie.

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  • edited December 1969
    Re: More EU2 Questions

    I bought the game yesterday. Did the person who wrote all the
    in-game text and the manual forget about commas? Yeesh. 8)

    I think it's because they're Swedish. There are a lot of non-native English-speaker errors.

    Anyway here are some questions:

    In political view (I think that's what it's called), how come
    some provinces are yellow-coloured, some greyish, some green?
    There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason.

    In the main view, the colors correspond, I believe, to the type of terrain -- open, forest, mountains, desert, swamp. But I can't confirm that.

    Speaking of which, is there a way to bring up a list that shows
    all the countries and what provinces they own?

    That would be nice. But you can always tell which country owns a given province.

    When I try to load games, EU2 crashes. I can start new games and
    save them fine. Wassah?

    This is a known bug. You need a patch. Should be available through MacLedge or Inside Mac Games, or at Virtual Programming's site.

    By the way, I've been playing for a while now, and I'm enjoying it, even though I understand only about 3/4 of what I'm doing.

    Mori, if you have the answer to this question, I'd love to hear it. I want to vassalize a country. I have a royal marriage, and our relations are great, but I have to have a military alliance. Can't get it into the alliance, because it hates my ally England. So I think, well, hell, England's done nothing but get me introuble with France, so why do I need that alliance any more? But I can't break the alliance, and the game tell sme I don't have an alliance with England. What gives? (Anyhow, this is ancient history in my game. More of an academic question.)

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  • edited December 1969
    Re: More EU2 Questions

    I think it's because they're Swedish. There are a lot of
    non-native English-speaker errors.

    I did some quick digging around the data files today. A lot is stored in text files... maybe it can be fixed without a code patch.

    In the main view, the colors correspond, I believe, to the type
    of terrain -- open, forest, mountains, desert, swamp. But I
    can't confirm that.

    That makes sense. Now... what effect does each of those regions have on armies, tax collection, trade, ...?

    This is a known bug. You need a patch. Should be available
    through MacLedge or Inside Mac Games, or at Virtual
    Programming's site.

    Sweet, I just found it through IMG... thanks!

    By the way, I've been playing for a while now, and I'm enjoying
    it, even though I understand only about 3/4 of what I'm doing.

    I'm about at the same place. Being able to load games will be very nice.

    Between patched Moo3, EU2 and Myth 1.4... who can get any work done these days?!

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  • edited December 1969
    [b]Re: More EU2 Questions[/b]

    As a long time EU2 player, I would encourage you to check out the EU2 forums at www.europa-universalis.com. Lots of interesting discussions and fun things to see there. =)

    ~Blackbeard

    [quote]
    I did some quick digging around the data files today. A lot is
    stored in text files... maybe it can be fixed without a code
    patch.

    That makes sense. Now... what effect does each of those regions
    have on armies, tax collection, trade, ...?

    Sweet, I just found it through IMG... thanks!

    I'm about at the same place. Being able to load games will be
    very nice.

    Between patched Moo3, EU2 and Myth 1.4... who can get any work
    done these days?!

    [/quote]
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